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Post by Ten on May 26, 2010 18:15:41 GMT -5
Antonio, the main character in Bless Me, Ultima. He thought a fish was a god.
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Post by Cloud on May 26, 2010 18:37:48 GMT -5
XDDDDDD Well, May only pretends. hurr hurr, your post was the one hundred and TENTH.
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Post by Ten on May 26, 2010 18:45:51 GMT -5
It was because some guy had told him some story about the fish being a god and when Tony saw the fish, it was big and glowing. This, of course, must mean that it is a deity with the power to flood the world.
Even without the stupid fish thing, Tony grated on me because of his passive personality and his doing things without much reason (and then getting away with them even when he wasn't supposed to be doing them). He was a lot like Firestar, that way. I don't understand why the writer got such praise -- the book wasn't that compelling or anything. But it has symbolism and magic surrealism, so that makes it profound~ This is one reason I have qualms about majoring in English.
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Post by Cloud on May 26, 2010 19:32:05 GMT -5
xD Ah, Ten. You remind me of when I was more of an idiot. Not you yourself, but what you're describing; it reminds me of what I was like back in seventh grade, gack.
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Post by Cloud on May 31, 2010 1:36:37 GMT -5
Chapter 16, Part 2
““How did you learn to hunt?” Bluefur gasped.”
What, does she think all medicine cats are useless except for treating wounds and just fumble around tripping over stuff the rest of the time? It’s not that amazing that he knows how to hunt. Featherwhisker just caught a mouse, which is why she’s all “GASPETH!”
The only other thing of note is that Blue Sue sees Pinestar talking to Jake, and of course she’s confused as to why he’s doing that. I am not, but that’s probably because I’ve read the book.
Chapter 17
“…the great oaks of Fourtrees swished with leaves.”
While I know what the Erins are trying to portray here, I still imagine the trees swishing around with the leaves as their dance partners.
“Whiteberry”
-imagines a tiny white spherical cat with a stem that grew from a bush-
“Ottersplash”
Unless this cat has splashes of fur on them that look like otters, this name makes no sense. Esepcially because the cat is ginger and white, and otters are brown. Double fail.
And we learn Crookedpaw has become Crookedjaw. Whoo. Oh yeah, they’re at a Gathering, if you hadn’t guessed. Pinestar causes unnecessary tension. They go home.
Next day, Blue Sue wakes up and Pinestar tells her that he’s taking her to the Moonstone because he forgot to when she was an apprentice. Snore.
“It looked strange in the sunlight - dull and lifeless without the moon’s glow.”
It’s a rock, you idiot. It’s not supposed to look like it has life in it.
“Reedfeather”
While I may not like the suffix –feather, at least it sort of makes sense when it’s used with a bird prefix. This? Is just stupid.
Yadda yadda, they reach Mothermouth.
““It’s time.””
TO DANCE!
Well, no. Time to enter the Cave of the Sparklestone.
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Post by Ten on May 31, 2010 8:31:31 GMT -5
"Featherwhisker" -- Imagining cat with feather dusters on his face. "-imagines a tiny white spherical cat with a stem that grew from a bush-" -- Don't be silly. Cats can't look like berries. Obviously, this cat is growing them from his body. "Unless this cat has splashes of fur on them that look like otters, this name makes no sense." -- One might argue the name could work for a cat with Otter-colored fur and white markings, because the brown parts are like "splashes" of color, but I hate when people do that "quotations" thing to explain symbolism. It's still a trippy name. Why would the leader care about being poetic about some fur markings ? It reeks of "omg im so clever i used SPLASH to desrib fur on a cta that looks like a OTTER!!!1" buuuut I'm being caustic now. Suffice to say I frown upon the name. "And we learn Crookedpaw has become Crookedjaw." -- Wait. His paw and his jaw are crooked? "Pinestar causes unnecessary tension." -- Whud'edo? "Pinestar tells her that he’s taking her to the Moonstone because he forgot to when she was an apprentice." -- So cats are supposed to see the Moonthang before they become a warrior. ...what do you mean, he forgot? "It’s a rock, you idiot. It’s not supposed to look like it has life in it." -- mm, inanimate objects can look lively. Or at least, they can look more lively than other ones. Uh, does this book have a plot?
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Post by Cloud on May 31, 2010 9:27:34 GMT -5
Nope. It's essentially Blue Sue's autobiography. I guess the whole "you are FIYAH" thing can be called a plot, her whole leader destiny and boring stuff like that. But I don't call it that, because A. We know she becomes leader and "saves" ThunderClan B. It doesn't really have to do with anyone else but her.
"Imagining a cat with feather dusters on his face."
XD In his description it says his whiskers are "long and feathery" which makes no sense. They're whiskers. They're straight, thin antennae. Also, I have an issue with the prefix Feather-. Feathers are so many different colors, it doesn't tell me anything about the cat except they're the color of a feather, which could be anything from purple to brown to blue.
"Don't be silly. Cats can't look like berries. Obviously, this cat is growing them from his body."
Darn those genetic scientists who love experimenting on the poor warrior cats.
"One might argue the name could work for a cat with Otter-colored fur and white markings, because the brown parts are like "splashes" of color, but I hate when people do that "quotations" thing to explain symbolism. It's still a trippy name. Why would the leader care about being poetic about some fur markings? It reeks of "omg im so clever i used SPLASH to desrib fur on a cta that looks like a OTTER!!!1" buuuut I'm being caustic now. Suffice to say I frown upon the name."
Exactly. The most creative fur description suffix that my leader will ever use is -dapple, and only for cats who have color description prefixes, like my Palepaw, because while she has a lot of light gray fur, she has darker spots that dapple it because she's a spotted tabby. There's just no need for any fancy description; if you want to say something about a cat's color, just use -fur, -pelt, or -stripe.
"Wait. His paw and his jaw are crooked?"
No. He broke his jaw when he was a kit and he fell off Sunningrocks, so he got renamed Crookedkit. (We don't know what his original name was.) When he was an apprentice he joked that he knew what his warrior name was going to be, unless he broke his tail too and then Hailstar would have to reconsider.
"Whud'edo?"
The Clans were all dissing kittypets and how they've been trespassing on the Clans' land, and then Pinestar does the stupid thing of saying "we have patrols to warn off ANY intruders" and the Clans get all annoyed and declare they haven't crossed his borders in moons. So of course the other Clans start accusing ThunderClan of being kittypet friends. Yawn, snore.
"So cats are supposed to see the Moonthang before they become a warrior. ...what do you mean, he forgot?"
He forgot to take her and Snowfur. -shrug- They've dropped the tradition since they moved to the lake, though.
"mm, inanimate objects can look lively. Or at least, they can look more lively than other ones."
...okay. I'll have to take your word for it. -has never thought an object looked alive-
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Post by Ten on May 31, 2010 9:42:00 GMT -5
"Also, I have an issue with the prefix Feather-." -- mm. It comes closer to justification as a suffix. As a prefix, people try to use it to mean fluffy. Well, newborn kittens can't be fluffy.
"He broke his jaw when he was a kit and he fell off Sunningrocks, so he got renamed Crookedkit. (We don't know what his original name was.)" -- o.o That's... really mean.
"They've dropped the tradition since they moved to the lake, though." -- Yeah, I noticed. What's up with that? And man, a leader doesn't have a whole bunch of paperwork to sort through or diplomatic meetings to attend -- how did he forget?
"-has never thought an object looked alive-" -- Never been spooked by a mannequin, huh?
Looking alive and looking lively are not the same. When an object is old and worn-down, it has a kind of droopy, tired look to it. An object in better shape looks more lively. Different types/amounts of light can also affect appearance, although I'm not sure how much that applies to rocks.
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Post by Cloud on May 31, 2010 15:52:33 GMT -5
"mm. It comes closer to justification as a suffix. As a prefix, people try to use it to mean fluffy. Well, newborn kittens can't be fluffy."
xD -had a funny thought of a kitten being named Featherkit for being fluffy as in chubby- But that wouldn't work either.
"o.o That's... really mean."
Guess Hailstar didn't like him much. A thought struck me that maybe it was a punishment for being foolish, but it seems too harsh for that.
"Yeah, I noticed. What's up with that? And man, a leader doesn't have a whole bunch of paperwork to sort through or diplomatic meetings to attend -- how did he forget?"
I don't know either. Let me think...what sorts of things would a leader have to do on a daily basis? Ceremonies, planning apprentice assessments, organizing patrols, advising cats, hunting, taking care of problems, training with their apprentice if they have one.
Cedarstar does quite a few ceremonies and he plans assessments, but organizing patrols is Rabbitstep's job. And well...he hunts and spends time with his mate. That too. Not much, really. So, yeah. Idk why Pinestar forgot, he and Cedar are in pretty similar situations but if that tradition were on FoF, Cedar would've done it.
"Never been spooked by a mannequin, huh?
Looking alive and looking lively are not the same. When an object is old and worn-down, it has a kind of droopy, tired look to it. An object in better shape looks more lively. Different types/amounts of light can also affect appearance, although I'm not sure how much that applies to rocks."
Yeah, I know what you mean. I just have a hard time thinking of inanimate objects as alive. And nope, I've never been spooked by a mannequin. They're just plastic/foam dummies.
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Post by Ten on May 31, 2010 18:46:55 GMT -5
"And nope, I've never been spooked by a mannequin. They're just plastic/foam dummies." -- Of course they are.
Sometimes, when they're realistic and I see one from a certain angle, I jump because I mistake it for a person, a person I didn't expect to be there.
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