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Post by Wolf on Nov 2, 2009 22:23:24 GMT -5
I was talking to Ten about this on the c-box, and she suggested I make a thread about it. So here it is.
The question is, if a cat's parents didn't like the idea of a Clan, wouldn't they not name their children in a traditional Clanlike way? To quote her: "I'm inclined to think the Clan naming system, what with all their ancestors con or otherwise following it, would become disassociated from the idea of Clanhood."
Anyway, I hope this is of use.
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Post by Ten on Nov 2, 2009 22:31:53 GMT -5
So to give my current stance (for as y'all know, I'm critical, but not iron-fisted), all the cats of the enclosure would have standard, two-part names, for the simple fact that everyone they've ever known was named like that. Cons would not associate two-part names with Clanners because after the betrayal, even the new cons had two-part names, and nowadays there are no other names to compare them to. Now of course, as is established, some apprentices never get a "paw" suffix, and some never get a warrior name, but the basic system has remained intact.
Thoughts on why a cat would part from it?
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Post by duckyaisha on Nov 3, 2009 6:36:29 GMT -5
In the Clan, all cats had two-part names, and after the betrayal, the Cons didn't just change their names. No cats alive can remember when the two-part naming system first came into use. For all they know, cats could've been named like that before the Clan was even formed.
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Post by Brain on Nov 4, 2009 19:11:36 GMT -5
Okay, I agree with Ten and Ducky. You wouldn't name a newborn human baby Star, would you?
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Post by duckyaisha on Nov 4, 2009 20:30:36 GMT -5
You wouldn't name a newborn human baby Star, would you?
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Of course not! That name reeks of sue!
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Post by Ten on Nov 4, 2009 21:39:46 GMT -5
There are people who name their children things like that, though. The international human community has much more variance in names than the secluded society of the enclosure.
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Post by Brain on Nov 4, 2009 22:05:36 GMT -5
"secluded society"
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Exactly. The only names they know are warrior names.
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Post by Cloud on Nov 7, 2009 11:12:17 GMT -5
Ok, I get that they only know warrior names. It makes sense. But some cat who thought it was silly might just have named their kit Gray or something, maybe? Unless some other cat later gave them a Clan suffix...
I dunno. I just think it's possible that maybe a cat could decide not to have a suffix in their name.
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Post by Ten on Nov 7, 2009 19:19:54 GMT -5
Okay. Why?
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Post by duckyaisha on Nov 7, 2009 20:55:00 GMT -5
I dunno. I just think it's possible that maybe a cat could decide not to have a suffix in their name.
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They've never heard any other names besides two-part names. People don't have names like Nxyzzzxyzyx, right? Besides the fact that it's unpronouncable, to people it just /isn't a name/. We've grown up knowing what makes a name and what doesn't, and the same thing happens with these cats.
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