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Post by Ten on May 6, 2009 17:27:49 GMT -5
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"Patchfur doesn't know that." -- Of course he doesn't. I'm eager to see how Fadedpelt will react to all this, though.
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Shortwhisker sat down and looked away in disdain as Patchfur spoke. It was all a bunch of nonsensical rambling. As soon as the ginger tom had finished, he spat, "H-having a leader is the b-best thing in the w-world because, for one, I w-wouldn't have to d-deal with c-cats like you. P-plus, with a l-leader, th-there'd always b-be food and s-safety and organiz-zation and p-peace and happiness. That d-doesn't happen without someone in ch-charge."
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Post by duckyaisha on May 6, 2009 17:31:00 GMT -5
Ooc: I wonder, when will this escalate into a fight? I feel kind of sorry for Patchfur. Nobody agrees with him!
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Post by zelda on May 6, 2009 18:58:00 GMT -5
((Well, she can't win everybody over. xD Doesn't mean she won't try.))
Fadedpelt listened intently to Patchfur's opinion, tilting her head to the side. "I think it's a good idea to have a Clan," she agreed, "but just because there is a leader, it doesn't necessarily mean said leader would be a tyrant. After all, there are certainly more than enough cats in a Clan to overthrow a leader." She sat down, raking her tongue across one paw and washing behind her ear. "That's why the leader has to be a good one. Otherwise, who knows what could happen? Anarchy."
As the two toms started arguing again, she rolled her eyes. How could cats like this even form this Clan they wanted if they were always fighting? "Look," she cut in. "Everyone has different opinions. Drawing blood over them is ridiculous, unless absolutely necessary." Since Fadedpelt gaining the leader position was absolutely necessary, she was allowed to draw blood at any point. That didn't mean they could.
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Post by duckyaisha on May 6, 2009 20:23:40 GMT -5
"Well, even if the leader wasn't a tyrant, what if some cats don't want to do what they say. Believe it or not, some cats are even more independant than I am. They wouldn't want to join a Clan at all, but a leader is a major reason why they don't want to join the Clan. If there was no leader, we could attract more cats to the idea of a Clan. These cats don't want to be bossed around at all, and even a small command from a leader would make them angry. We need more cats on our side. Besides, I don't like the idea of only one cat having power. It doesn't seem fair. What did they do to deserve that power? Why do none of the other cats get power? Is the leader better than the rest of the cats in the Clan? Those are other reason I don't want a leader. I'm glad you agree with me on the fighting, though. We shouldn't fight unless it's necessary," Patchfur agreed.
Ooc: If Patchfur knew how Fadedpelt really thought, he'd hate her. She can hurt cats, but they can't, just because she wants to be leader? If she tells Patchfur this stuff, she might die.
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Post by zelda on May 6, 2009 20:44:50 GMT -5
((Think of her as Richard Nixon. She thinks that, since she is to be the leader, she can do no wrong, just like Nixon saying that the president is above the law.))
"There may be these kinds of cats," Fadedpelt agreed, "but that does not necessarily mean that these cats could care for themselves. Yes, some of them are resourceful, as I am sure you are --" of course, she was partially just sweetening her words here "-- but there are others who could not function as a Clan without the guidance of a leader."
Honestly, she wasn't becoming very fond of this cat's opinions, but she best not make that apparent as of yet. It was still possible to win him over to her side.
"Besides," she added, "does there just have to be a leader? There might be other cats of power. Not as high as the leader's, maybe, but something like a deputy, to guide the leader and organize the Clan." The idea of sharing any power at all did not appeal to her much, but if it would get her more followers, so be it.
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Gosh
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Post by Gosh on May 6, 2009 21:05:18 GMT -5
ooc| "What if you weren't allowed to insult me. That would probably ruin your day."
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Spiderpaw listened quietly to the two toms arguing, and then she tilted her head to the side. A new voice. She sounded friendly enough, and she supported a Clan. Spiderpaw got up and padded over to the three cats.
"Why can't we just cut the arguing and insulting and try to get others to see the great things about Clanhood?" She glanced at the other she-cat. She seemed reasonable, and Spiderpaw thought, 'Hmm. Maybe I should tell her about Woodstripe's experiment.' Then again, Patchfur might have already been thinking about that. She would let him do the honors.
'On second thought,' she thought, 'he's probably too riled up at Shortwhisker.' A frown crept onto her face. 'They're both so...aggressive. Perhaps I should talk to this - what is her name?' Having thought this, she meowed, "I'm Spiderpaw. I know these two-" she nodded to the toms "- but what is your name?"
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Post by Ten on May 6, 2009 21:12:48 GMT -5
ooc| "If she tells Patchfur this stuff, she might die." <-- XD
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"Sh-shut it, Patchbutt. Those a-aren't reasons; they're q-questions," Shortwhisker pointed out. To Fadedpelt, he mewed, "Yeah, C-Clans have d-deputies. That's all, th-though. I mean, th-there used to be s-someone else that d-did something imp-portant, but it w-was like... the p-plant cat or something u-useless like that."
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Post by duckyaisha on May 7, 2009 5:42:27 GMT -5
Ooc: Yeah, but Patchfur thinks that every cat is equal and no cat is better than any other cat. Bic: "Having a leader and a deputy isn't much better than just a leader. That way two cats have power, but the rest of the Clan doesn't. I don't think it's fair. Besides, look where it got us in the past. Look at Riverclan. That's another reason why a new system would be a good idea," he meowed to Fadedpelt. "Shortwhisker, fine, I'll tell you my reasons in statements this time," he replied, trying as hard as he could to stay calm and not resort to insults like Shortwhisker was doing. "Leaders didn't do anything to deserve the power. Only one other cat get power. This suggests that the leader and deputy are better than everyone else. They are allowed to tell us what to do, but we aren't allowed to tell them what to do. That's not fair."
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Post by Ten on May 7, 2009 17:26:20 GMT -5
ooc| "Patchfur thinks that every cat is equal" -- We're well aware of that. He can speak for himself.
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Shortwhisker sighed in exasperation. "Quit w-whining about w-what is and isn't f-fair. You s-sound like a k-kit. It's n-not that they're b-better; it's th-that they're in ch-charge. That's th-the way the w-world works. G-get over it."
After a slight pause, he looked at Fadedpelt. She hadn't been explicit in what she thought about all this. "You want a Clan - a real Clan - don't you?"
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Post by duckyaisha on May 7, 2009 21:25:32 GMT -5
Ooc: But the person who plays Fadedpelt didn't know that (until now).
Bic: "But why do /they/ get to be in charge, hm? And that's /not/ how the world works. No one's in charge of me now that I can take care of myself. In fact, most adult cats here take care of themselves. So no, having someone in charge is not the way the world works. Anyways, the old system failed. We know that for a fact. That's why we're in here," Patchfur meowed, gesturing with his tail to indicate the enclosure. "What we don't know is whether or not my idea will work. No cat has any evidence that a Clan using my system failed. No one knows whether it will succeed or fail, but we do know that Riverclan's leading system failed. Why try something that has failed in the past? Sure, some leaders might be kind and good, but eventually there will be a cruel leader."
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