Silversand

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"she just doesn't see a point in taking parasites off."
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She wouldn't have the pain anymore. That's a point.
XXX
But if she can deal with it why put the effort into it?


"she eats a lot of lizards, perhaps it doesn't have enough keratin."
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Lizards seem like a natural enough thing for a cat to eat. Do cats ned keratin? How much? How much do lizards have?
XXX
Lizards are natural, but cats usually eat other things as well. It’s the same reason why humans need a varied diet.
I'll go figure that out… O.O


"She saw a gray cat and thought of her gray mother."
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So cats can't tell the difference between gray and white, even though gray is darker?
XXX
There are many shades of gray. A white cat is not pure white. Besides, if she didn't have a white cat to compare the kits too, how could she tell?


"there may have been some more recent stories"
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What do you mean?
XXX
Recent stories tend to sound more realistic than stories that get fabricated as they move along.


"No, I think anything with a brain can come up with what it wants to do with itself…"
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Where would those desires originate from?
XXX
Not desires, not drives… reactions.


"one can have a plan for something that's never happened to them before."
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What do you mean?
I can plan to go skydiving, when I've never done it before? Yes, I can.
XXX
Yes, you can. But people also may never heard of the end of the world, but they still wonder if there is one, still plan… not that there is any planning involved in the end of the world .O.O


"she'd be pessimistic about behavior of other cat. She'd be pessimistic about wanting to be friendly."
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This does not equate with hate.
XXX
For her it does. If she doesn't want to be friendly, then she might as well be mean. That way, cats stay away from her and she doesn't have to be friendly with them when they come back.


"she's agitated by cats"
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When they do what? Exist?
XXX
Yes. She doesn't trust cats… like said in her views.


"Things only have one meaning?"
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"Things", the word itself? No.
Are you sure you read the name rules?
XXX
I'm positive I read them.
Things the word itself doesn't… I was talking about anything in general. Sick can mean physically ill or mentally ill. Funny can mean comical or weird.


"Her mother was softhearted and kind."
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How does being softhearted and kind make a cat like the outside?
What did she do that was softhearted and kind?
XXX
Softhearted and Kind means you can be accepting. Accepting what is around you makes it easier to like.
I don't know, I never wrote a bio on her mother.


"No, but that's because people proved me wrong."
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How does one prove a fairy tale wrong?
XXX
Not the fairy tale, but me. I thought Santa put the presents under the trees when I was little. My parents showed me the wrapping paper they used and the receipts for the gifts because I was stubborn and didn't believe what they were saying.


"These cat's have nothing to prove them wrong."
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And whatever they believe to be true, why would she be interested in it? I know other planets exist, and creatures deep in the ocean, and I find them interesting enough but am not compelled to study them and learn everything I can of them.
XXX
At the same time, she's not you. When you're in a block of rock, there's not much else to study.

"She wants to know it for herself, she's curious."
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Why?
XXX
Because she's been told stories.


"I also haven't rped yet."
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Which means there's even less you could say about her personality. Focus on her views; that's where you'll find her.
XXX
No, I meant I've rped her… for about six years (not always a cat), just not here. I was saying 'show' is hard to do without you being able to see anything.

"Nature vs. Nurture"
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I know what it is. I've taken classes in Anthropology.


"nature is because of a person's brain"
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Which is built from DNA which is inherited from parents.
No cosmic soul for you, then?
XXX
Eh, I'm not big on cosmic souls.

"with a little pain,"
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Have you ever untwisted a broken leg?
XXX
Yes, it hurts too.

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"But if she can deal with it why put the effort into it?"
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To not deal with it.
I can deal with being punched in the face, but I'd like to avoid it.


"There are many shades of gray."
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Shades that are the same darkness level as white?


"Besides, if she didn't have a white cat to compare the kits too, how could she tell?"
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What we think of as "very very light gray" is what they would call "white". So she would see very very light gray and call it white.


"reactions."
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Wouldn't it have to react based on patterns of what it's been given to react to?


"But people also may never heard of the end of the world, but they still wonder if there is one, still plan… not that there is any planning involved in the end of the world ."
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So what was your point?


"For her it does."
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No. She can be pessimisic and hateful both, but pessimism does not force her to hate.


"If she doesn't want to be friendly,"
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Why doesn't she want to?


"That way, cats stay away from her"
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Why does she want that?


"Yes."
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So she sees a cat and gets agitated?


"She doesn't trust cats…"
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Why? Were her parents untrusting?


"Sick can mean physically ill or mentally ill. Funny can mean comical or weird."
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So is she sandy?


"Softhearted and Kind means you can be accepting."
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No.


"Accepting what is around you makes it easier to like."
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The enclosue is what's around them. And yes, the Outside is around the enclosure, but I don't think that's what you mean.


"I don't know,"
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Then she isn't.


"When you're in a block of rock, there's not much else to study."
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How would you know?


"Because she's been told stories."
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Other cats have been told stories and they're not curious, so what makes her different?


"without you being able to see anything."
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What do you mean?


"Eh, I'm not big on cosmic souls."
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Good.


"Yes,"
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So you think a cat would do that to themselves?

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"But if she can deal with it why put the effort into it?"
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To not deal with it.
I can deal with being punched in the face, but I'd like to avoid it.
XXX
But are you the same as her? She doesn't avoid it because that itself is too much effort.


"There are many shades of gray."
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Shades that are the same darkness level as white?
XXX
No, but how is she supposed to know the 'levels' of gray? Even white is very very light gray or can be very very very light gray… I mean especially if she's trying to keep her kits alive she's not going to analyze the pelt color very thoroughly.


"Besides, if she didn't have a white cat to compare the kits too, how could she tell?"
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What we think of as "very very light gray" is what they would call "white". So she would see very very light gray and call it white.
XXX
But in the dark, she wouldn't know for sure.


"reactions."
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Wouldn't it have to react based on patterns of what it's been given to react to?
XXX
Not always. Impulse reactions aren't always because one has been in a situation before. When someone falls for the first time, they put out their hands… they've never fallen before to know that putting out your hands makes your arms hurt in the end, or that not putting them out hurts their face.


"But people also may never heard of the end of the world, but they still wonder if there is one, still plan… not that there is any planning involved in the end of the world ."
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So what was your point?
XXX
I'm getting at the fact that your brain has plans for things that even you don't know of.


"For her it does."
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No. She can be pessimisic and hateful both, but pessimism does not force her to hate.
XXX
Then she's both.


"If she doesn't want to be friendly,"
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Why doesn't she want to?
XXX
Cats agitate her.


"That way, cats stay away from her"
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Why does she want that?
XXX
Same as above.


"Yes."
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So she sees a cat and gets agitated?
XXX
Personalities of cats, not their appearances. Albeit, sometimes body language can agitate her.


"She doesn't trust cats…"
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Why? Were her parents untrusting?
XXX
The leader ran away with the deputy and left the whole group of cats in the enclosure.


"Sick can mean physically ill or mentally ill. Funny can mean comical or weird."
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So is she sandy?
XXX
Yes! She's rough. Also, she's not very stable- very temperamental and also can be soft… depending on the cat.


"Softhearted and Kind means you can be accepting."
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No.
XXX
Yes. I've never seen a very kind person put everything in the world down and go emo. I never said it meant she HAD to be accepting… of course someone isn't going to like something if they've had a bad experience, but what bad experience could be so detrimental to her views? Sure she had bad times, but the freedom is surely worth a few bad scrapes here and there.

"I don't know,"
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Then she isn't.
XXX
How do you know? You wrote a bio on her?


"When you're in a block of rock, there's not much else to study."
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How would you know?
XXX
Ever been grounded? You have nothing interesting to do? I imagine life in the enclosure is sort of like that… (Without the 'missing' part since they don't know what they're missing.)


"Because she's been told stories."
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Other cats have been told stories and they're not curious, so what makes her different?
XXX
Probably the way her parents put it. If they told magical stories that shed the outside world in a good light, then she'd be curious about it.


"without you being able to see anything."
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What do you mean?
XXX
I can't show you her personality. Its impossible one, to show you everything about her personality and two, to show you anything if there is no place for you to view said personality.

"Yes,"
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So you think a cat would do that to themselves?
XXX
Yes! A cat needs a good leg for the best hunting. If they're living on scarce desert food, in an enclosure where a lot of cats are hunting and not sharing their food, I think any cat would rather fix their leg than die of starvation… unless they had a death wish.

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"But are you the same as her?"
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Don't be silly.


"She doesn't avoid it because that itself is too much effort."
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How is removing a parasite more of a bother than allowing it to remain?


"No, but how is she supposed to know the 'levels' of gray?"
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By having seen white in the dark before.


"I mean especially if she's trying to keep her kits alive she's not going to analyze the pelt color very thoroughly."
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And she's not going to name them.


"When someone falls for the first time, they put out their hands…"
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Reflexes aren't personality.


"I'm getting at the fact that your brain has plans for things that even you don't know of."
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Unconcious plans? Because if these were concious plans, that means you know of it.


"Cats agitate her."
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By existing; that's all? So she spends her entire life agitated, every waking moment?


"Personalities of cats,"
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So... a cat having a personality agitates her?
Or is it something that the cat does?


"body language can agitate her."
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What body language?


"The leader ran away with the deputy and left the whole group of cats in the enclosure."
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Yes, but not everyone here is untrusting, so what makes her different?


"Yes! She's rough."
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Sandy does not mean rough.


"Also, she's not very stable- very temperamental"
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How so? Is she insane? Insecure and irrational?


"Yes."
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No. I looked it up in the dictionary. I did not see the word "accepting" or any synonym for it. Kind and softhearted people can be accepting, but kind and softhearted do not mean accepting.


"How do you know?"
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You haven't proved it.


"Ever been grounded?"
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No, but I've been sent to my room. The enclosure isn't a momentary punishment for them. It's their life. Do you hate having to breathe? Most people don't think about it. It's the way it is.


"You have nothing interesting to do?"
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There doesn't have to be nothing interesting to do, but you're shutting down your own creativity and shelling yourself up in your own mindset. To role play here, you have to put yourself in these cats' paws.


"Probably the way her parents put it."
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How did they put it that made it seem "magical"?


"If they told magical stories that shed the outside world in a good light, then she'd be curious about it."
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No, hearing about it in a positive light would make her think of it in a positive light. That's not what would make her curious. So what did?


"I can't show you her personality."
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You can't show her doing anything? Of course you can. There's a history and a views section.


"there is no place for you to view said personality."
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I've already explained why that would be useless.


"I think any cat would rather fix their leg"
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It would be a well-known treatment?
And you say you think any cat would rather fix their leg, yet Silversand didn't?