|
|
Post by Ten on Mar 19, 2009 9:09:12 GMT -5
"Not everyone is as fortunate as yourself, Patchfur; not everyone is strong and cared for. Some require the aid of a group. Can you testify against this?" Woodstripe asked, tilting her head.
|
|
|
|
Post by duckyaisha on Mar 19, 2009 16:36:40 GMT -5
"Of course, that's what a Clan is for. Helping each other. If a cat got sick or injured, they would still be allowed to eat. Disabled cats could use their other skills to aid the Clan. A leader would lump all those cats togther and consign them ot the elders' den. But they can contribute. Every cat can. And if a particular cat needs help with a particular thing, well of course we would aid them. I never said cats wouldn't live together and help one another. I'm just saying we can do all those things without a leader," he meowed, a little puzzled. He had never said that, had he? Oh, well. Now to address Batkit. "A parent that didn't want their kit could always give it to some other cat. If they didn't, well, cats have ears and eyes and noses. We could see and hear and smell a lost kit. We would simply take it back to the Clan and let someone else raise it. Seeing as the enclosure isn't incredibly huge, I think all lost kits would be found."
|
|
|
|
Post by Ten on Mar 20, 2009 20:59:04 GMT -5
"Patchfur, forgive me if I leap to conclusions, but I think I have noticed a recurring theme in what you say. You believe that cats have many different, helpful strengths, yes? Continuing on that thought, you must understand that some cats have more charisma and decisiveness. Other cats find this appealing. Whether a cat is designated as leader from the beginning or not, a leader will arise, simply due to feline nature. In fact, it might be more perilous not to chose one in the beginning, as this could lead to violent disagreements if more than one cat proves to be leader material."
|
|
|
|
Post by duckyaisha on Mar 21, 2009 9:38:38 GMT -5
"Exactly. Violent disagreements would occur if more than one cat wanted ot be leader. Obviously, this will happen. The simplest way to avoid these disagreements would be for there to be no leader. And besides, not everyone will want one cat as a leader. They may want another cat to lead them, which would lead to those two groups of cats fighting each other. The Clan will split in two and become enemies. Not having a leader is safe and fair."
|
|
Thistle
Apprentice
noisy cricket {1}[M:0]
woah, so liek hai. 8D%\7\%
Posts: 358
|
Post by Thistle on Mar 22, 2009 1:37:48 GMT -5
"But it's impossible to have a Clan without a leader. Who would make it come true, anyway? Someone has to make a Clan first, and it would be too hard without a leader. Besides, if you said that you wanted to have a Clan without a leader and everyone follows your idea than your a leader without knowing it."
He thought for a bit.
"Or maybe we could have more than one leader," suggested Batkit.
|
|
|
|
Post by duckyaisha on Mar 22, 2009 8:09:48 GMT -5
"Why is it impossible to have a Clan without a leader? It's easy. We all run our own day-to-day lives and vote on large issues. If a lot of cats want a Clan all they have to do is get together and decide. I wouldn't be the leader just because everyone follows my idea. My vote is equal to every other cat's. I am equal to every other cat. I would have the same amount of power as everyone else. And two leaders would be just as bad as one. What if three different cats wanted to be leader? Why do those two cats get to have all the power? All I want is for things to be fair," Patchfur said firmly.
|
|
Gosh
Young Warrior
noisy cricket {1}[M:160]
Friends, as they say, may come and go, but high-powered laser weapons are forever.%\1\%
Posts: 791
|
Post by Gosh on Mar 22, 2009 10:34:08 GMT -5
"The problem is that without someone in charge, for instance, if a fight broke out, who would decide who was punished? Fair judgment requires someone higher up, and if the leader was not impartial to the wrongdoer or wrongdoers, the deputy could help decide." Spiderpaw nodded confidently.
|
|
|
|
Post by duckyaisha on Mar 22, 2009 18:32:38 GMT -5
"But what makes you so sure that one cat will be impartial? In fact, every cat has their favorites. Whether consciously or not, the leader would decide based on personal preference. If all the cats voted on what punishment the cat deserved, it would be more fair because you would get to hear the opinion of not just one or two cats, but every cat. Why do only the leader and deputy get to have a say in what happens to wrongdoers? /That/ isn't fair."
|
|
|
|
Post by Ten on Mar 22, 2009 21:02:19 GMT -5
"If the Clan disagrees with any decision, they have full capability to reject it. We have discussed this, have we not? Now I suggest to all of you that we proceed in recruitment. Would you prefer we divided amongst ourselves?"
|
|
|
|
Post by duckyaisha on Mar 23, 2009 8:47:41 GMT -5
"But if the Clan itself chooses to refuse or accept decisions, then what's the point of a leader?" Patchfur grumbled under his breath. He really didn't care enough about what Woodstripe was saying to listen. After all, he'd have to listen to her day and night for the seven days that he was under her control. She said something about recruitment... But who else would be as crazy as Patchfur to willingly give themselves to seven days of orders, seven days of being treated like a kit taking its first steps, seven days of being told what to do?
|
|
