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Post by Ten on Jul 26, 2010 16:56:47 GMT -5
"You know when someone tells you not to do something, and your natural reaction us to do the opposite?"
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No. Unless I've got something against this person doing the telling or they sound patronizing.
What issue did she have with her mother to spark rebellion?
"Sandheart just glimpsed at the sun."
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How did it not burn her eyes out?
"Which brings me to the next point. Sandheart was anti-Clan, which I forgot to mention. She didn't care for authority and rules and all that junk. She just wanted out."
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If all she wanted was out, she wouldn't be able to take care of her kit.
"She didn't care for Clan names, so she thought 'Glow' would be appropriate."
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Even cons have Clan names. They don't think of them as Clan names, though, because they've never known any other type of names. To them, they're just names.
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Post by frosty on Jul 26, 2010 17:06:05 GMT -5
She had no issue with her mother. She had a different way of thinking, coupled with her inquisitive personality. Maybe rebelling was too strong of a word. It's not that she went against her mother, it's just that she had different opinions and insights on the enclosure.
Like I said, she didn't stare at the sun. She glimpsed it. She wanted to look directly at it, but it did hurt her eyes. And that further enhanced her curiosity.
Though she wanted out of the enclosure, Sandheart didn't neglect her daughter. She raised her until she was old enough to care for herself, but still plotted ways out.
Sandheart thought a different way. She thought that just Glow was enough. There was no point in constantly changing her name as she aged, or so she thought.
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Post by Ten on Jul 26, 2010 17:27:26 GMT -5
"She had no issue with her mother. She had a different way of thinking, coupled with her inquisitive personality."
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What gave her the different way of thinking? Was there another cat -- maybe her father -- who influenced her behavior?
"Like I said, she didn't stare at the sun. She glimpsed it."
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I'm afraid you're not understanding that, due to their dim surroundings, these cats have a much lower light tolerance than we do. However, perhaps she could get a glimpse of the edges of it, causing her severe pain and blinding her for a few minutes. mm. So that part is plausible.
"Though she wanted out of the enclosure, Sandheart didn't neglect her daughter. She raised her until she was old enough to care for herself, but still plotted ways out."
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This, not so much.
She's either insane and flinging herself at the walls all the time, or she's a decent mother. They're both full time jobs. She can't do both.
"Sandheart thought a different way. She thought that just Glow was enough. There was no point in constantly changing her name as she aged, or so she thought."
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What led her to think that?
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Post by frosty on Jul 26, 2010 17:53:52 GMT -5
Her father was anti-Clan, too. So yes, we could say that influenced her.
We can also say she glimpsed the edges. I didn't understand what you were getting at. :3
Sandheart's life was split in two. She was a decent mother, but during the time when Glow's father took care of her she was, as you say, flinging herself at walls.
Sandheart thought outside if the box, very literally. She wanted a unique name for her kit. Nothing like the 'stupid Clan name' she was given. Glow had to be different. She had to be different because she was named after something so massive, so interesting, so beyond their comprehension.
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Post by Ten on Jul 26, 2010 18:02:33 GMT -5
"Her father was anti-Clan, too. So yes, we could say that influenced her."
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How so? What did he do that made her rebellious/think differently?
"Sandheart's life was split in two."
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Let's take a step back, then.
Is she insane?
"Sandheart thought outside if the box, very literally. She wanted a unique name for her kit. Nothing like the 'stupid Clan name' she was given."
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None of the cats she knows who have names like that live in a Clan, so there's no reason for her to associate those names with Clans.
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Post by frosty on Jul 26, 2010 18:28:43 GMT -5
Well, her father was also a rebel. He was anti-Clan, anti-enclosure, etc. Though Russetfur's beliefs were strong, Sandheart prefered her father's way of thinking better. She liked the idea of freedom.
Yes, Sandheart is insane.
But they're not in a Clan. They're a group of cats with Clan names. But Sandheart was anti-Clan, so she didn't bother to follow the typical format of names because she just didn't care.
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Post by Ten on Jul 26, 2010 18:44:54 GMT -5
"Well, her father was also a rebel. He was anti-Clan, anti-enclosure, etc."
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Wait, what? He was crazy too?
"Though Russetfur's beliefs were strong, Sandheart prefered her father's way of thinking better. She liked the idea of freedom"
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Why? Did she spend more time with her father?
"Yes, Sandheart is insane."
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Does she have something like schizophrenia where it's only part of the time? /hopes Rolo doesn't come down on her for inaccuracy
"But Sandheart was anti-Clan,"
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What's that got to do with it?
"so she didn't bother to follow the typical format of names because she just didn't care."
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She'd have to make a deliberate choice to give the cat half a name, so she would have to care.
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Post by frosty on Jul 26, 2010 19:09:21 GMT -5
Yes, her father was insane. Probably should've thrown that in. &shot'd
She did spend more time with her father because Sandheart was busy flinging herself at walls'. :3
No, she's insane all the time. But she's still devoted to her daughter, regardless of her opinion on the enclosure.
She's anti-Clan, so it factors into the way she feels about Clan names.
Then she did care enough about Clan named to shun them.
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Post by Ten on Jul 26, 2010 19:38:20 GMT -5
"Yes, her father was insane. Probably should've thrown that in."
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Now we're piling back generations.
Was he born with a brain problem?
"But she's still devoted to her daughter,"
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She can't be whole-heartedly devoted to two different things.
"regardless of her opinion on the enclosure."
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It's not an opinion. It's insanity.
You're still thinking that it's okay, that it's reasonable for a cat to want out. It's not.
"She's anti-Clan, so it factors into the way she feels about Clan names."
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None of them call those Clan names. They're just names.
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Post by frosty on Jul 26, 2010 19:53:30 GMT -5
A brain problem? Why would he need to be born with a brain problem to think differently? There's three generations involved: Russetfur, Sandheart, and Glow. Glow is not insane, neither is Russetfur, but Sandheart is because her father was.
Why can't she be whole-heartedly devoted to her daughter and her beliefs? That's like saying I can't be devoted to a certain pastime if I have a child. Glow was her main priority in life, but she also wanted to get out of the enclosure.
But why isn't it reasonable for Sandheart to want out? If you'd like, I can give her some mental disorder but I don't understad why it's not reasonable.
It doesn't matter if they call them Clan names. The point is that Sandheart wanted to give her daughter a different type of name. She was fascinated with the portion of the sun she saw, her daughter resembled the sun in color, so she was named after it.
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